[TagCommons-WG] Use Cases for Sharing Tag Data

Thomas Vander Wal thomas at vanderwal.net
Wed Feb 21 06:01:54 PST 2007


Along these lines, I have heard from a few people that somebody built a
proof of concept tool on top of Flickr that will provide cross-language term
matching.  If you put the term *red* into the tool it will provide a
potential match for the term in other languages along with photo examples.
The tool is not perfect, but it is in the 80 to 90 percent accuracy range.


On 2/20/07 11:59 PM, "Harry Halpin" <hhalpin at ibiblio.org> wrote:

> Also the "language" of the tag is also going to pop up in
> cross-appliation tag aggregation, and I think mapping to a common
> ontology could help us with this this problem. For example, what if I
> know both German and English (which I do), what if I want all resources
> about tags about Germany? Germans would tag that with "Deutschland".
> 
> Furthermore, this would be a great use-case for seeing what taggers are
> doing in different language communities. Are the same tags used by
> people in Korea as in the USA?
> 
> There's an interesting message on the microformat list-serv about
> multi-lingual tagging between Karl Dubost and Tantek Celik that's worth
> looking at [1].
> 
> And how the lack of a non-English user-interface on Flickr leading to
> all sorts of problem...
> 
> [1]
> http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-October/006035.
> html
> 
> 
> Thomas Vander Wal wrote:
>> I will start with this little project description.  It is a cross
>> application tagging search tool.  It is simple tag search across 14 or so
>> tagging services.  The project is a proof of concept for something larger,
>> which has not moved forward.
>> 
>> The project started with answering a simple question, "what tagging service
>> should I use" that came after every presentation on tagging I gave.  The
>> answer depends on what that person's interest is, what they call things, and
>> what service has people tagging in a similar manner.
>> 
>> The tagging search tool sets out to provide an answer to that simple
>> question by providing the ability to see results to a simple tag term
>> grouped by tagging services in reverse chron order.  The person can add and
>> remove tagging services in the search then save and then grab an RSS feed of
>> those services when new items are added.
>> 
>> The project still runs, but is not currently being developed.  I went to
>> shut the service down but 2/3rds of those using the tool found it helpful
>> and it scratched an itch they could not otherwise scratch.
>> 
>> I have mostly been using it for research.
>> 
>> - I have watched tag terms over time across various services and watched
>> interest in a tag/subject move from one service to another.
>> 
>> - The same person may use the same tag term (such as "design") differently
>> on different tagging services (use as in visual design context on Ma.gnolia,
>> while using it for system design on del.icio.us).
>> 
>> - Since the site currently only searches simple terms it is really apparent
>> that tag combinations are extremely valuable as is having a common object
>> being tagged for disambiguation of tag terms.
>> 
>> I went into the project thinking there were three valuable legs to tagging
>> (identity, object being tagged, and each tag), but found that the tagging
>> venue is also important to capture when working to share tags and
>> disambiguate terms.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/16/07 7:18 PM, "Tom Gruber" <onto at tomgruber.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>> Thomas Vander Wal has an application that does Cross Application Tagging.
>>> Thomas, would you mind telling us about that?
>>>     
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Thomas
>> 
>>   
> 

All the best,
Thomas

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